January 27, 2010

Slowly but Surely

This post was inspired by an email I received recently (and approved by Cole)...

The other night after I got home from being in Las Vegas for a week I walked back into my house at around midnight, the children were asleep, Cole was fighting to stay awake, and all I had been thinking about was how I couldn't wait to make love to my wife and lay next to her and just relax. Of course the baby is asleep in our bed, LB wakes up to the sound of a pin drop, and Cole has to get up for work in 6 hours. Ugh. Well there is always tomorrow. I think it was around 4 days later that Cole and I finally tip-toed to the other end of the house while LB was at school, and Tessa was napping away, that we finally had some awkward (as quiet as possible) sex in the living room with all the blinds closed, so very careful not to make a sound so we don't wake anyone up. Have you ever had sex without making a sound? Try it if you haven't. It's really stupid. Luckily we both thought it was hilarious, and both thought it was ridiculous, and both knew that it had nothing to do with the other and everything to do with the circumstances. Knowing that we are both on the same page that this kind of thing isn't going to fly is comforting, it means that I know we will find a way to remedy the intimacy. Nobody wants to have the "our sex life sucks" talk with one another, so for now we are laughing at the absurdity of the conditions in which we can actually have sex.

Sometimes the opportunity creeps up and surprises us, maybe the kids fell fast asleep at bedtime at the same time, nobody is fighting it off, we aren't completely exhausted, and we're like "Oh yeah! We can totally do this. Do you want to? You do?!" Then I am like "FUCK!! The stupid condoms are all the way in the back of the house." And all of the sudden I am a grown man tip toeing through the dark house as quiet as a mouse, trying not to breathe, down the hallway past LB's door, into the bedroom, opening the dresser drawer as sloooooow as humanly possible, avoiding the creaky floor board--stop, pause, the baby is stirring, no-- NO-- NOOOOOOO!! she woke up. Baby starts screaming. I just walk into the shower and stand there. We missed our chance. It's gone. I am still at the point where I think this stuff is funny, so it's okay. I never thought that the movie "Big Daddy" with Adam Sandler was funny, but now all I can think of is that scene where he is eating that Frito as quiet as possible while the kid is napping, and I am laughing my ass off-- "it's true! it's so true." Oh man.

I am convincing myself that it won't be like this forever.

And I know that it won't.

While our sex life has been on pause, the big difference I have noticed is the frequency in which I say completely filthy stuff to Cole throughout the day about all the things that I want to do to her. Of course this does little to build romance and anticipation, and does more harm than good in building my case for sex later in the night. But it definitely does a lot for the hilarious factor around the house. I take great pride in making Cole's jaw drop with filthy innuendos, and in turn she will totally shock me and do embarrassing things like hump the air like a teenager while the kids have their heads turned, or do the old classic tongue in the cheek BJ face. All of this is a sign that there is some sense of humor intact about the building frustration, but the real actual hard work to get back to blissful intimacy is about to begin. We are making a move that matters.

We are taking our bed back.

It's time to switch Tessa to the crib full time and free our nights of the baby pulling at Cole. It's time to get this baby out of the bed, so when I wake up with a morning boner I am not immediately stricken with shame, "there's a baby in the bed, how could you do this to me? Go away morning boner." Now I have to stop and realize for a second that this is where Cole and I differ. Here is what I mean: Freeing up the bed for Cole means ridding herself of being a human pacifier and her boobs being assaulted all times of the night by Tessa, wrecking any consistent solid satisfying sleep she might get. I sleep just fine, Cole has a baby clawing at her body every hour for snuggles and flesh. I honestly don't know how she does it. For me getting the baby out of the bed means that I get to assault Cole's boobs all times of the night and wreck any chance at all at a solid nights sleep. haha I am kidding. sort of. I just want my wife back. It's to the point when I feel guilty spooning up to Cole cause I know she has reached the limit of anyone touching her between the demands of both the kiddos. So here I come looking for affection and well... I might as well be trying to hug a hornets nest. Knowing why shit happens the way it happens is fine, but convincing yourself not to take it personal is the challenge. And I admit there are some days that I struggle with it and let myself get all butt hurt and frustrated. That is when I have to slap sense into my face and man up, and just realize that this is just part of the sacrifice of having children. It was one of those things that married couples with kids said would happen that you don't want to listen to. Of course we knew that part of deciding to co-sleep with Tessa was going to seriously impair our likelihood of finding time to be intimate, but when these kinds of decisions are being made just after Cole pushing Tessa out and into this earth, the last thing Cole was thinking of was, "man I can't wait to get something between my legs!"

I wasn't sure what was going to happen after she gave birth to Tessa. Eventually slowly, sex comes back into the picture. We were like... so, we want to give this a try again? And it is seriously scary. Will I hurt her? Will it feel so bad she won't want to do it again EVER? Is it too soon? We had been told stories of people showing up to their postpartum exams and announcing that they were pregnant again. and we were like... hmmm, The Duggar's? But yeah. We waited. And we tried. And it sucked. It was like playing a game of operation, and if I touched the sides, Cole would punch me in the nose. We just stared at one another and I would watch her face for any sign of distress, and she was looking back at me with this face that people make when they have to poop really bad and there isn't a toilet around anywhere and we kept saying: "I love you." I can't imagine it is like that for everyone, maybe some people wait longer, maybe some people just don't worry as much, maybe some people just like it to hurt? Who knows, but it gets better, and better, and better again, until months later there are new things being tried out and I am the one wincing in pain. The point is that it gets better-- and that is how this whole post started, someone had written and asked that very question. And I admit I was a little taken aback at first when someone wrote to ask about sex postpartum and wanted some perspective from people who have just gone through it, and then I realized that it is absolutely something people just don't talk about. And maybe something like this would help? Who knows if it did.

So I am going to be clear and finish this off and speak directly to that reader...

All I know is that the chemical reactions and hormones coursing through Cole from the point of conception till now is making it so that she has at least another year (maybe longer) before she is feeling like her old self again, so the fact that she even has a sex drive at all makes me feel so very lucky. It isn't the same for everyone, hormones are unpredictable and tolerances are different. You know this :) So yeah. I know I am lucky, but I am also patient and that is the true path to getting things back to normal again. Patience coupled with a sense of humor, on top of understanding, saves everything. Everything. From the email you wrote I would imagine that you all will be back to full speed just in time for the baby to start blowing your chances. I really do think babies are birth control, they exhaust you, they keep you busy, they do not want another baby coming around and getting on their mamas boobs. They do everything they can to keep their parents from having sex. Anyway, I promise you won't actually rip in half, thanks for writing, and good luck.

All the Love in the Universe ~ Me

61 comments:

L.R. M-J January 27, 2010 10:01 AM  

Nothing beats open & honest!! Another blog I follow just posted recently on post-partum sex--in the honest, full disclosure way--and you know what? You guys are probably letting the flood gates of relief open up for a lot of people out there & that is great!! These shouldn't be taboo discussions, hello, it's nature! And less people would feel like freaks on so many topics if more people opened up like you, so *hand wave* Merci!

mommaruth January 27, 2010 10:01 AM  

This is so very honest and THANK YOU for having the guts to write about it. I don't know why more people can't be open and honest about post-partum sex. It happens, it's just that no one's comfortable talking about it, I guess.

My husband has the superhero ability to get naked in 0.02 seconds when the *moment* becomes available for us. It never ceases to make me laugh. I can barely get the sentence "Do you want-" and he's buck naked standing in front of me, ready to go. Like you said, a little laughter can take you far during those awkward moments after baby gets here.

Good for you, Ryan - writing another amazing post that opens the door for the rest of us to talk about our experiences.

ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO WRITE THAT BOOK??

Anonymous January 27, 2010 10:02 AM  

this is a great post!! Our daughter is 2 and so the post sex life is still so fresh in my head!!! (I thought the DR sewed me up a little) HORORIFIED.... IT GETS BETTER your right

Mama Cas January 27, 2010 10:03 AM  

It's a tough phase to go through and it feels like it might never end, right? We've had 4 kids, so we're quite familiar with the ups and downs of a healthy sex life. (And, honestly, whether a couple has kids or not, there WILL be dry spells now and then. That's just how it works, I think.) You seem to be in the right frame of mind....keep the sense of humor and communication, try to remember what's been going on with Cole's body, reclaim your bed, and keep an open mind. A quickie in the shower might be enough to satisfy you both for now.

And my last piece of advice? Keep a condom in your back pocket AT. ALL. TIMES. haha!!

Stephanie Meade Gresham January 27, 2010 10:06 AM  

JG and I like to try two minute sex on the bathroom counter while the shower is running and both kids are watching a cartoon.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it's good. Even if all 120 seconds of it are spent wondering if I put the remote control far enough away from Sam that he can't reach it and stick it in his mouth and electrocute his face off with a tiny AAA battery shock.

One day at a time.

The Panic Room January 27, 2010 10:07 AM  

@ Mama- Cas- Haha This just happened recently, I had one in my pocket and Cole looked at me and was like: "what are you in high school? where did that thing come from?" it was hilarious.

@ L.R. M-J- What was the blog? Would love to read their take on it. And thank you for the nice comment :)

@ mommaruth- You're welcome. That is hilarious about your husband.

@ anono- it gets better. That needs to be a T-shirt right?

fidget January 27, 2010 10:09 AM  

i was going to suggest a condom stash on a high shelf in the kitchen for when those opportunities present themselves.

also, We have our baby start out in her own space and then half way through the night (or on a really good day, in the morning) she moves to our bed. It give The Hubster and I some time together, a few hours of sleep where the baby isnt clawing at me and then some special time just with the baby before i have to get up and juggle all 5 kids

The Panic Room January 27, 2010 10:09 AM  

@ Steph- That really made me laugh pretty hard. You guys are hilarious. Such a good couple. Say hi to JG and get him into the salon again.

PicklePetunia January 27, 2010 10:13 AM  

I will be emailing this post to my husband as I feel he will have the perfect perspective, (very close to yours) and will enjoy it very much.

Amber January 27, 2010 10:22 AM  

Man...this is right on! I think people that I know personally read your blog, and hopefully they won't see this comment and look at me awkward in church...but when we were in the stage of getting things back on track, I was feeling great and had my drive back, it was raining softly one night and I suggested we make our way to the hammock outside. (we live on 5 acres) He said okay and told me to put something sexy on and meet him out there. I did, and opened the window a crack so we could hear the baby if he cried. Which he did TWICE during the hour or so we were out there. I threw my shoes on to avoid stepping on pickers and rean in to get him back to sleep and it was a really amazing experience despite that and we really connected.
I liked your point about wanting to touch Cole and she is just done with people pawing her...I feel the same way and I think i'm going to show my husband this post because even though I feel awful when it happens and I can tell he feels bad, I still can't tolerate letting him even touch me without wanting to scream. I'm glad you wrote about it from a guys perspective and that you understand where it's coming from.

Christine--RHP January 27, 2010 10:30 AM  

Oh my god I don't even know where to begin commenting on this one...good for being honest, that's for sure. The whole damn issue is a hornets' nest. I feel you on everything you wrote. I used to be able to have totally silent orgasms and the baby (in another room) would still wake up. But only when he was really little--I was like, "geez, are we still so connected?" I guess we were for a while.
And as far as freeing up the bed goes, what worked for us after about 6 months of baby in the bed was putting the baby to sleep in his own crib at bedtime (usually 8-9pm) and then having adult bedroom time until he woke for a nurse around midnite, at which time he'd be brought into our bed for the rest of the night. That way we got the best of both worlds, so to speak.
You're right, it won't be like this forever, it will just seem like it.

giftsofthejourney January 27, 2010 10:31 AM  

You have a wonderful attitude about all this ... very mature and wise. Great post.

Cate January 27, 2010 10:38 AM  

THIS. TOTALLY THIS. I couldn't email it to my husband fast enough.

Maybe it's time for us to start putting our daughter (8 months) to sleep in the crib at the beginning of the night so we can have the bed to ourselves for a couple hours...the only issue is getting her to NOT wake up and scream the second her body meets the mattress!

Sarah January 27, 2010 10:47 AM  

Wow, what an incredible post. Thanks for sharing, really.

racheljherr January 27, 2010 10:47 AM  

I breathed a sigh of relief reading this - I can relate to SO much of what you wrote about postpartum sex. Thank God it gets better.

Our son (Cole!) is about 4 months old and we're starting to think about transitioning him out of our bed...but when exactly...and how to make it a good and comfortable transition for all three of us...? Will you write about how you guys go about it and how it pans out?

The Panic Room January 27, 2010 10:57 AM  

@ rachel- I am sure there will be something said about the transition eventually. One of the best things that Cole and I read about the transition was by Rebecca Woolf who writes Girls Gone Child and writes for Babble as well

Check it out here

Tracey January 27, 2010 11:00 AM  

This post is Awesome! I was dying laughing the whole time I read it - I can't wait to get my husband to read it and forward it to all my parent friends! We have all been there!

We did the "start the baby in the crib first at night" trick everyone else has posted. It was a good way to start weaning the baby off the constant contact. AND we just figured this out recently: white noise! We put a small fan type space heater in the babies room and just turned it on the fan setting. It works wonders for drowning out the creaky floors and other noises ;-).

You guys are great and your chemistry radiates from your words. I never tire of your totally honest and real perspective!

Francine January 27, 2010 11:16 AM  

You just need to start being more creative. I think the teepee you built for LB is calling.

Wait, that's just messed up.

babeblue January 27, 2010 11:53 AM  

wow! thank you for being so honest and open (cole, too.) we're having a baby soon so it's good to know what's in store even after a few months with the kid.

all you ever hear about is the "6 weeks" thing and i wasn't sure how accurate that was supposed to be.

normally i wouldn't ask this but since we're all being so open...why did you guys choose condoms for your birth control? is cole supposed to wait a certain amount of time before getting on the pill or some other contraceptive?

wow, i feel so close to you all right now...

erin January 27, 2010 11:53 AM  

THANK YOU! your honesty about all this marriage and baby stuff is so amazing! i emailed this post to my husband immediatly after reading it! it is so nice to know that i am not the only one that gave my husband "the look" during sex after baby! we are finally to the point now where we are totally "back in buisness" BUT.....(the inevidable BUT!) now that we want to hump like rabbits we are far to tired do make the effort! can't wait until you write about that! we are trying to convince ourselves that this in time will too pass! and i love love love that i am not the only person in the world that air humps at my hubs behind the babies back! hahahah

alexis maia January 27, 2010 11:55 AM  

Oh man. Ditto. To everything.

Kirsten January 27, 2010 12:16 PM  

I love your honesty, too. Oh man...post baby loving can be daunting, can't it...the trick for us is to go for it right after baby goes down for bed...not excatly spontaneous...but we haven't been interupted yet! (2 babies later). Good luck!

Mom Taxi Julie January 27, 2010 12:22 PM  

Just try the quiet thing in a small house with a teenager! It's brutal!

KC January 27, 2010 12:26 PM  

I called my husband at home and made him read it immediately! So true, and appreciate your honesty. It just gets better with time . . . that does need to be a shirt. :-)

Christine--RHP January 27, 2010 12:33 PM  

oh, and then several years later a tantra teacher told me that it's important to make a lot sounds during sex, and I protested about my son being able to hear us, and she said children should grow up hearing lovemaking. That it is fundamentally wrong to protect them from the awareness of the parents' sexuality. I'm still trying to swallow that one.

ummmmm....so put that in your already full pipe and smoke it.

Cay January 27, 2010 12:46 PM  

Ryan! Thank you for this! My husband and I are dealing with post partum sex at the moment!

He deployed before I was cleared to even have sex so the poor guy went four months with out sex! He got home last week and I am so fucking terrified! I find myself going to bed in sweat pants so he doesn't get any ideas or making sure not to hug him TOO long... SO DEPRESSING

The first couple times we tried, we were both holding our breathes, going at snail speed... centimeter by centimeter. Then we finally gave up cause none of us were having fun! Finally, I was wide awake one night thinking about it and I just decided "fuck it". Literally. I woke him up and it was great. This was the other night and now its "time" again and I'm finding myself stressing out about it again!

I know it will get better.... but I'm still going to bed in sweat pants, just in case.

Poor guy. He's the best.

Oh and my baby is 4 1/2 months old and we JUST got him into his crib. He had colic really bad and wasn't doing well even co-sleeping. We ended up signing up for a program called "sleep sense" by some baby sleep therapist. I fels so lame paying $40 for it but he went from sleeping 3 hours max in a row to sleeping thru the night... all in the first night we tried it! Anyways, good luck with that! I think it's great that ya'll are doing it while Tessa is a little younger. It'd be hell if you waited longer!

owl and peacock : melina January 27, 2010 1:00 PM  

This post is fantastic. So fantastic, that I very much wanted to share it with someone, and the only person who came to mind was my boyfriend. Boyfriend, read: quite possibly (tho hopefully not) temporary, no kids, no commitment. I think he'd garner a very wrong feeling about my enthusiasm of this post :)
Either way, bravo. You're very honest when you write, I wish I had the balls!

Dan January 27, 2010 1:19 PM  

This was right on the money - more or less exactly what my wife and I went through after our daughter was born. Thanks for writing, keep it up!

Julie January 27, 2010 2:14 PM  

Thank you for the honesty! And hilarious and truthful and heartwarming as always.

Katy January 27, 2010 2:37 PM  

Great post! We went through this when my daughter was born - now she is three we are going through the 'she walking in ' stage. We used to put her in her bassinett (wierd crib thing) next to the stereo (she was a bad sleeper but loved music)when we had sex I think that's why she has a wierd attachment to The John Butler Trio and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Yes, quiet sex had us in fits of laughter too.

Yana January 27, 2010 3:44 PM  

thank you.
we haven't had our first baby yet, but he'll be here in a few days, and this helps already.
I'm going to make my husband read this post.

please, please keep up the honesty. It's so refreshing and real. I love your blog to the core.

:)

Jennifer January 27, 2010 4:36 PM  

What a great post Ryan- full of the Funny, and thanks to Cole for sharing! This is definitely a great topic for discussion. In fact, I think I'm now motivated to write in my blog (which I hardly ever do) about the whole baby sleep training thing. Not that I'm any expert, I just want to share/document my experiences. I also would like to agree with several posters about the sleeping in the crib to start each night. That makes a HUGE difference. :)

Octohawk January 27, 2010 4:44 PM  

your blog + playing with tessa (- tessa's snot screams) usually = me wanting to have kids. this post did not. however..
guys, really, i live like 2 minutes away and i can probably keep tessa and/or kevin alive for like 20 minutes while you guys get to it. seriously, just tell cole to text me a secret code (like "6911" haha get it?!) and i'll be there to take the kiddies for a walk around the neighborhood or something. these things are important.
man i am a good friend. or a pervert. or both.

FaerySarah January 27, 2010 5:08 PM  

wow! " and if I touched the sides, Cole would punch me in the nose." - my favourite bit of the whole post. Sadly I can relate... time is our friend though!

Melina January 27, 2010 8:07 PM  

i relate on soooo... many levels..yes patience, timing, locked doors, sleeping babies, or one sleeping and one watching a movie, living room floor...yah so true...I know it's unromantic at the moment but we are scheduling it...gotta do it. pun intended.

Muffin Cake January 28, 2010 12:15 AM  

Love it. LOVE it.

We're 2 kids in now, and it does get both much more complicated and much more simple. Gone are the days of ample foreplay, but after 6 years of marriage I suppose the odds are those would be gone anyhow?

I will say we waited 6 weeks after our first baby, but not that long after our second. It's kind of scary and for SURE we were both approaching it with the fervor of senior citizens. But it wasn't nearly as bad as I'd expected. And the important thing IS that you're keeping it alive and remembering your sense of humor.

Thanks for your blog. We're homebirth parents too, and I can really relate to a lot of what you write about.

Barbara January 28, 2010 6:05 AM  

Yes, this post helped A LOT. I'm pregnant now with our first baby and had no clue how these things would work after the birth. I know each couple is different, but it's good to have an idea.

Barbara - www.twitter.com/baxt

Sher January 28, 2010 8:01 AM  

Thank you Ryan and Cole for letting us in! I hope that when we do decide to have a baby I remember this blog and you are about to give Tessa and LB another sibling! Oh and your Wii game is on the market :-) x

rachel / Red Lips Vintage January 28, 2010 9:44 AM  

hilarious!

Sara Rose January 28, 2010 9:51 AM  

Gawd. I just wrote about the cosleep thing and how we have absolutely zero sex right now. Like, as in, Owen is almost 7 months old and we've had sex 3 times. That's so disgusting. I think we're going to buy a cosleeper thingie so Owen is still near us but OUT of the bed. Ack.

Anonymous January 28, 2010 10:21 AM  

I've never left a comment on a blog ever. And I read lot's of them. But my husband and I just started trying to get pregnant and the things you've written and the maternity series with your wife have made me more excited than ever to start this experience. Is it creepy I feel like I am friends with you guys? Probably. So thanks for being so open and honest about your life.

Marley January 28, 2010 10:22 AM  

Pure gold, as usual! I don't have a baby and don't have one on the way either but I am so in love with your stories. One of my good friends is in labor as we speak and I am always forwarding your posts to her! Keep it up, Ryan!

Hedi January 28, 2010 10:27 AM  

merci for sharing :) I think it's most important to "Just do it". My husband and I didn't. And missed the slot to get back into our sexual life. Our son is 4 years old and the routine of not having sex has conquered our marriage. Sad but true.

Stephanie January 28, 2010 12:16 PM  

Just started writing about this as well. Our midwife came over yesterday morning and asked if we had sex yet.. It seemed strange since its only been three weeks and with my previous deliveries they demanded at least six...

Rambling Rachel January 28, 2010 12:22 PM  

As a co-sleeper, I mock people who ask about the sex with the frank question, "who wants to have sex in a bed?" shuts 'em up. (course I'm a lactating woman and do not wake up with a morning boner)

Our second child has a sex radar and forbids us from copulating. She has proven this by untimely wake-ups. So rude. Just wait until she's a teen and it's my mission to make sure SHE doesn't have sex. paybacks are hell.

Kim Hosey January 28, 2010 12:34 PM  

Wow; look at all the people your post touched. You've really struck a chord.

What they all said. Thank you for discussing this. Open, honest, perfect.

I subscribe to the "just do it" method as well. Easier said than done, but still.

Bri (like the cheese) January 28, 2010 1:11 PM  

Don't forget lube post-partum. It is critical to alleviating the 'Dr. must have sewed it shut' sensation.

TanuvasaCasa January 28, 2010 1:39 PM  

Oh, this made me laugh out loud many times because it is ALL so true. As a mom who's about to have her 6th child...we go through this every time!

As hard as it will be at first emotionally, sleeping with out a baby in your bed is SO freeing! Cole will get a better sleep (even after all your constant nagging) and be able to face the day and the challenges of parenting better. I'm SUCH a better mom after I get a good sleep and some morning lovin'. Little Tessa will get a much better sleep with out the constant lure of the boobies so close that she doesn't even have to wake up all the way to find them.

Good post, so real, and now I'm dreading the post sex we'll be having in a few months. can't wait for things to get back to normal.

Oh, and here's a hint, in case you have any more... if the baby is in the crib in the beginning, and you're sex is on the loud side, they will sleep right through it. We've trained our kids to sleep through ANYTHING!!! They sleep like rocks and it's SO freeing!!!

Christy January 28, 2010 1:49 PM  

Haha! I love it! I just had a baby girl 3 months ago and I totally agree that humor and patience are the best way to get back to normal!

KateC January 29, 2010 9:39 AM  

Ryan, thank you so much for addressing my email. (Stepping forward and fessing up, here.)

LR -- not a coincidence, in fact. I assume you mean my blog post from last week?

http://katesmakinbabies.blogspot.com/2010/01/sex.html

Babeblue, estrogen interferes with breastfeeding, so if you're breast feeding, the normal combination hormone pill isn't a good method of BC. I'm on the mini-pill which is progesterone-only, but condoms and IUDs are other very common and good methods of birth control for those nursing months. Breastfeeding cuts down on your chances of ovulating (it's an 85% effective method of BC by itself), but the stakes are so high when you're drained by an infant that it pays to use the condoms for a while too, even if they do suck.



Ryan, so much of your accounts of the early weeks and the first few times strikes home for me. Thank you so much for writing such a great post about it. And thanks for all the other moms and dads for chiming in with their own experiences! I feel a lot less alone!

The Panic Room January 29, 2010 9:48 AM  

@ Kate C- Thank you for writing your email and reaching out to Cole and I. Writing this I had no idea what to expect in terms of response so I am glad that it helped to hear so many people reassure what you already knew. That it will all get better. I will be checking your blog for a follow up post :)

two 'lil weeds Mama January 29, 2010 11:07 AM  

My husband and I both got a few good chuckles out of this post. I wondered how in the world you got Tessa so quickly to sleep so well. Our littlest one also co-sleeps with us and she SLEEPS, so do we. Sort of, I wake often to be sure she is ok so close. With the second child to also care for we need sleep. Keep us posted how the transition goes. Wishing you all luck as she gets used to her new sleeping pace. Has she figured out how to sooth herself yet, ours at just 5 months has not. The screaming sometimes is well, crazy. Our older one asks for her ear muffs. Glad to read this! Thanks for sharing.

Toni Brockliss January 29, 2010 5:59 PM  

I laughed and laughed! So funny Ryan!
The first time, and the time after that, and after that.....for us was like that game Operation, when you touch the side with that pen thingy and it makes a buzzing noise.
Ben had that terrified face too.
That's how Cole and I know we married good one's. You are more concerned for us then for your Ben and Ryan jnrs.
I love your writing. It's too good!

Amanda January 31, 2010 1:03 PM  

Thank you so much for writing this from the guy's point of view. It really hit home for me.

Our youngest of 3 is 19 months and we are still struggling w/ this. What you said about the physical demands on Cole from the kids all day-you hit the nail on the head of how I feel and just couldn't verbalize it as well as you did. (turns into arguements here...I suppose from his feeling of "rejection")

I had my husband read your post-hoping to shed some light from another point of view. I really appreciate your openness and honesty on the subject. :)

I'm w/ someone else in here-I was going to suggest a condom stash elsewhere in the house-lol.

jtw* February 2, 2010 1:12 PM  

i'm going to show this post to my husband... i'm sure he feels the same way and i feel horrible at times (our little girl is 10 wks)... though hopefully tessa will be a big girl soon and stay in her crib, for both daddy and mommy's sake. though i can say, being a mommy is definitely different than from daddy's point of view. good luck and hang in there... no pun intended.

Cate Subrosa February 3, 2010 4:01 AM  

Ryan, you are a legend for writing about this, and in such a real and open way. Thank you.

Our little girl is nearly 5 months old and we just moved her into her own room last week. We were waking her as much as she was waking us so we decided it was time (her room is right across from ours) and the change has been amazing, we are definitely all sleeping better.

And the best part, we can go to bed early, put the light on, make (a little) noise! Woohoo! The other day we went to bed early and wow, let me tell you, it's a lot easier to relax and enjoy when you know the baby is asleep for the night (so a few hours at least hopefully!) than trying to get busy in the tiny window when she decides to take a nap at the weekend. (Do you know the song Business Time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGOohBytKTU We got into joking about that a lot. You do miss when you could just do it whenever.)

I really appreciated the part you wrote about Cole's experience, about reaching the limits of having anyone touch her. That was definitely an issue for me in the early days when I felt like I was whipping a boob out to breastfeed every five minutes. I remember once in the early days Nate trying to make a move on me and I was all, "honey, don't take this the wrong way but I just look forward to this time of the day when she's gone to bed and I can keep my clothes on for two hours straight." He got that, it was always cool. You just have to remember it's not forever, not for long even.

One last thing, for anyone going through that phase where you're getting it all started again... my doctor, who is a very proper 50 or 60-something lady, real old-school, looked me in the eye and said, "lots of lube, ok? Lots of lube."

lorien_i February 3, 2010 12:02 PM  

Long-time lurker, first time poster. A very, very funny post! I just wanted to put in my $0.02 that if Cole is still nursing, co-sleeping will still = more sleep and by the inverse law of exhaustion, co-sleeping will ultimately = more sex. Just not in bed. And nursing is awesome in so many ways, for everyone. kellymom.com has tips & tricks on this and many subjects.

Keep up the awesome writing and I hope your new projects end up just as awesome! Cheers from Canada.

Agent K February 4, 2010 7:05 AM  

Oh shit! My sides! It's funny cause it's true! I am so showing this to my husband. Maybe then the poor bastard won't feel so bad.

As for LB and the wakey wakey-ness, have you thought of a white noise CD/machine? Google it my friend, god send! My little guy wakes up if you just think about blinking but he loves the staticky crackly white noise.

stella February 11, 2010 10:22 PM  

GREAT POST.

wonderful topic. ever read any of Ian Kerner??? (Love in the Time of Colic)...

you have just described our sex life. ha.

with a 5month old - i am still not myself. and yes - you described it well - some days i am just all TOUCHED OUT. the last thing i want is my husband grabbing my boob.

ack.

poor guy. lol.

Genie March 2, 2010 3:01 PM  

Thank you for writing this! Our son is 4 months old and we're going through that awkward operation game too. I don't understand people who are already having tons of sex. More power to 'em, but we've got a squirmy baby in our bed and everything is still really tender.

raesrandomrants May 26, 2010 1:51 AM  

wow. thank you so much for this. even though i can't have children i find a lot i can relate too as a bi-polar female. especially the part about feeling pawed at. ;>

thank you again.

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